John Elway's son

[Ironlung]

That was a game that UT kind of lucked into winning. I think Miles can be credited as much for giving that one away. I remember after a change of possession when Rick threw an INT that Miles came running onto the field yelling for a timeout. Pelini basically tackled him and threw him back on the sidelines since obviously they didn't need one.

[Biggin]

yeah im with lung, i take jimmy at this point, rick never really impressed me at all, at least jimmy has the god given talent, wheter he uses it right or not haha

[1inStripes]

Talent/skill? Jimmy has it. Heart/head? Im not so sure.

[yankeebaseball]

I think a lot of people have this idea that just because they had a dad that was one of the greatest ever in their respective sports... then their kids are automatically going to be just as great. Lot of these players are great by not only working hard, but the timing was right in their respective sport to catch a few breaks plus... the majority of these players came up in an age without all the luxuries that today's kids have: cell phones, video games, etc.... other things that all occupy the time of kids today who could be out working on their respective sport that they are apart of. Not saying that all kids are like this.....but it makes a huge difference.

For example.....some of the hardest working kids that you will find in their respective sports do not come from the biggest schools in SW Virginia... but the smallest. In some of these bigger schools, kids have more options and are around more things in their area whereas kids from smaller schools from smaller areas do not have that many things to distract them. Just an opinion. Twin Valley of today and even in the late 90's the Council teams for instance in basketball..... two of the smallest schools in all of Region D......yet.....considered year in and year out one of the strongest contenders to take the Region D crown.... even before the divisional splits.

Another reason why some kids don't pan out.......athletes like a Montana or Jordan or Elway.... they get married. Now.. take a guy like Dell Curry.... he married an athletic volleyball player from Tech.....and from that union you get a Stephan and Seth Curry. Now.. I'm not saying it happens like this all the time... but sometimes.... the person that you marry.... it'll have a bearing on your kids athletic ability. Just obeservations that I've noticed here and there.

Id say the fact that council and twin valley do not have other programs to distract them from basketball helps. More than how hard working they are, if you do not do anything else you just get better at what you do